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Kabuto who was greater than oro as far as skills were concerned and had extensive knowledge on his genjutsu felt he needed to be blind to fight itachi. That's just how likely it is for him to catch you in a illusion. Oro would need a fanfic scenario or a entirely new fighting style to cater to itachi's hax.So here unless oro can hide someplace and let the edos do his fighting for him then oro will get embarrassed again. Totsuka discourage the use of any monster forms since they are just big targets to get sucked up. Orochimaru with Manda, Aoda, Edo Minato, Edo Tobirama, and Edo Hiruzen will wipe Itachi out of existence.

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Let's not kid ourselves folks, Itachi sure as hell ain't beating this version of Orochimaru regardless of his Mokuton potential. Even without Edo Tensei, since he isn't in a weakened state like he was in literally every single scenario that he 'fought' Itachi, and there is no PIS and CIS involved, he will have no problem.

With full knowledge, Orochimaru uses Doton to go underground. He then summons and unleashes Manda and Aoda from beneath Itachi to gang up on him alongside Mandara no Jin (all wielding Kusanagi) which spells Itachi's certain defeat. He isn't outrunning them, Manda can counter Amaterasu by shedding his skin and then burrowing underground to do the same thing. Aoda has been called Manda's equal in DB4, so he logically should be able to do the exact same thing. As giant snakes, they can detect their prey with their tongues so their eyes won't be necessary.

So then there's no Tsukuyomi or Sharingan: Genjutsu, so Itachi will have to use Susanoo to defeat them and by that time Mandara no Jin will have got him or the extended Kusanagi will pierce him from below. Defense for Orochimaru:Sharingan Genjutsu/Tsukyomi: Manda can keep Orochimaru out of range. ET are immune to Genjutsu. Orochimaru can avoid eye contact. Knowledge is full for him after all.Amaterasu: Oral RebirthSusanoo: Mandara No Jin + ET + Underground attack with the blade of Kusanagi.OrManda + Pt. 1 ET Hashirama & Tobirama.Offense for Orochimaru:Manda:Manda is a lot larger than Itachis Susanoo and will not be affected by Totsukas minor scratches.

If Itachi tries to seal Manda with Totsuka, which is quite the feat, ET Hashi & Tobi attack Susanoo weak spots. Watches.Edit Tensei: Part 1 ET Hashirama & Tobirama aren't all that strong, but their abilities will bring a lot to this battle. Hashiramas wood style should be able to get Itachi out of Susanoo and keep him moving around. Which is good for Orochimaru since he's going to want to avoid CQC. Tobirama can counter fire style Jutsu which would just be tanked anyway.Itachis Dilemma:If Itachi tries to seal Manda he has Orochimaru, Hashirama & Tobirama as opponents. If he tries to seal Hashirama he has Tobirama, Manda & Orochimaru as opponents. You see??I could get way way way more into it but I'll just leave it at this until someone counters.

Kabuto who was greater than oro as far as skills were concerned and had extensive knowledge on his genjutsu felt he needed to be blind to fight itachi. That's just how likely it is for him to catch you in a illusion. Oro would need a fanfic scenario or a entirely new fighting style to cater to itachi's hax.So here unless oro can hide someplace and let the edos do his fighting for him then oro will get embarrassed again. Totsuka discourage the use of any monster forms since they are just big targets to get sucked up. Orochimaru with Manda, Aoda, Edo Minato, Edo Tobirama, and Edo Hiruzen will wipe Itachi out of existence. Let's not kid ourselves folks, Itachi sure as hell ain't beating this version of Orochimaru regardless of his Mokuton potential. Even without Edo Tensei, since he isn't in a weakened state like he was in literally every single scenario that he 'fought' Itachi, and there is no PIS and CIS involved, he will have no problem.

With full knowledge, Orochimaru uses Doton to go underground. He then summons and unleashes Manda and Aoda from beneath Itachi to gang up on him alongside Mandara no Jin (all wielding Kusanagi) which spells Itachi's certain defeat. He isn't outrunning them, Manda can counter Amaterasu by shedding his skin and then burrowing underground to do the same thing. Aoda has been called Manda's equal in DB4, so he logically should be able to do the exact same thing. As giant snakes, they can detect their prey with their tongues so their eyes won't be necessary. So then there's no Tsukuyomi or Sharingan: Genjutsu, so Itachi will have to use Susanoo to defeat them and by that time Mandara no Jin will have got him or the extended Kusanagi will pierce him from below. Click to expand.It's pointless to argue with these people.

They dont know reasonOrochi doesnt even need Mokuton/War Arc ET to beat ItachiBut these people think Orochimaru with no arms/no killing intent/unhealthy/not fighting = Orochimaru with arms/killing intent/healthy/fightingThey think Itachi is stronger than NagatoJust leave it. I might still release the essays I was going to, but Itachi-fanboyism is clearly encouraged on this forum. Even the mods like encourage it.I don't see the point in debating this threadEveryone so far has said 'Orochi gets his ass kicked'.

They think Itachi can kick the ass of someone stronger than a man he cannot defeat.They dont know the difference between No Killing intent/Not actually fighting Orochimaru and Sick/Armless/Immobile, and a full powered one. Defense for Orochimaru:Sharingan Genjutsu/Tsukyomi: Manda can keep Orochimaru out of range. ET are immune to Genjutsu. Orochimaru can avoid eye contact. Knowledge is full for him after all.Amaterasu: Oral RebirthSusanoo: Mandara No Jin + ET + Underground attack with the blade of Kusanagi.OrManda + Pt.

1 ET Hashirama & Tobirama.Offense for Orochimaru:Manda:Manda is a lot larger than Itachis Susanoo and will not be affected by Totsukas minor scratches. If Itachi tries to seal Manda with Totsuka, which is quite the feat, ET Hashi & Tobi attack Susanoo weak spots. Watches.Edo Tensei: Part 1 ET Hashirama & Tobirama aren't all that strong, but their abilities will bring a lot to this battle. Hashiramas wood style should be able to get Itachi out of Susanoo and keep him moving around. Which is good for Orochimaru since he's going to want to avoid CQC.

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Tobirama can counter fire style Jutsu which would just be tanked anyway.Itachis Dilemma:If Itachi tries to seal Manda he has Orochimaru, Hashirama & Tobirama as opponents. If he tries to seal Hashirama he has Tobirama, Manda & Orochimaru as opponents.

You see??I could get way way way more into it but I'll just leave it at this until someone counters. Click to expand.Because Orochimaru is immobile here like he was in Yamata, and he has no counter for brain damage.Anyway, until tomorrow when I release my own essays, I'll just sit this one out.As you can see, locking down my threads in favour of the Itachi wankdom has only fuelled them more. Well done mods.

And to believe he didn't even have the courtesy to tell me why I locked those threads, when I asked him like 6 times.All of you at some point would have been in a thread or a conversation that contained some form of essay as to why Prime Orochimaru (the guy in ) is stronger than Itachi Uchiha (the same one we are talking about here) but no one cares to read my arguments. All they know how to do is wank. Shame isn't it.At the end of the day, I put a lot of time into these essays so i'm still gonna release them tomorrow (that's when I intended to, then shockingly saw this spite thread), but after that, even if you people think Itachi Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, Hiruzen and Prime Orochimaru, I dont care. My essay is solid.

And agreed with me. The former read my essays and the latter read my post in a different thread. None of them carry bias for Itachi and/or bias against the Sannin in general, so their opinion means more to me than anyone elses, as the rest of you (most of) carry bias for Itachi, as is clearly illustrated in your responses. Click to expand.As you can see, the OP you made must state Orochimaru is immobile and has no chakra (i'm drunk right now so i cant see the OP properly) - i mean, it must say that right? Since people are saying Totsuka and Tsukuyomi ends the fight?Like I said, I have a match up thread for a different Orochimaru than this one, and an essay I'm bringing to the BD tomorrow. Until then, i really haven't got anything to say.

If I ever use a manga supported argument again/try to use logic, reasoning and understanding is going to punish me. He practically said so himself.I will say this though: You said 'I actually think he wins this scenario'. This is war arc Orochi, a stronger one than the Prime Orochimaru i'm always going on about (basically, Part 1 Orochi + his Part 2 showings up until his sealing at the Uchiha Hideout) - do you think that Orochimaru would not beat Itachi in this scenario?

Kabuto who was greater than oro as far as skills were concerned and had extensive knowledge on his genjutsu felt he needed to be blind to fight itachi. That's just how likely it is for him to catch you in a illusion. Oro would need a fanfic scenario or a entirely new fighting style to cater to itachi's hax.So here unless oro can hide someplace and let the edos do his fighting for him then oro will get embarrassed again.

Totsuka discourage the use of any monster forms since they are just big targets to get sucked up. Click to expand. Another main problem is this, people using Itachi + EMS Sasuke SM Kabuto to say Alive Itachi Prime OrochimaruFor one, Kabuto and Orochimaru are not the same fighter. They share some abilities, but are not the same. That's like saying Tobirama and Minato are the same ninja, or Tsunade and Hashirama are the same ninjasMy main argument for Orochimaru countering Genjutsu is having Edos break him out (does SM Kabuto have Edos in fight with Itachi? No) using partner method, or staying out of range using his colossal summons ( does SM Kabuto have Colossal Summons in that cramped up cave? No) and also he won with Izanami (does it work on Orochimaru?

No).But of course, nonsensical comparisons must always be made so that Itachi can be on topsuch as SM Kabuto =/ Orochimaru in every single way, shape, form, ability, area, skill, extension,also such as Nerfed Orochimaru = Prime OrochimaruIf people weren't getting these easily mistaken misconceptions so confused, then like I said, would never have been a thing on Naruto Forums, because people would know Prime Orochimaru Itachi. As for War Arc Orochimaru? Don't care about him. Hashirama one shots while Hiruzen rubs his feet, Minato massages his back and Tobirama holds an ice-cold drink with a straw to his lips. Then when its done, Hashirama makes a big leaf from his Mokuton tree and fans Orochimaru with it.LOOL just made another thread and it got closed.

Shows the power of fanboyism. If I knew using logic/manga arguments was so wrong, I would never have come on this forum. Why I disliked your post?Because we have already seen:1. Orochimaru lose to Itachi, twice in the mangaBoth of the fights didn't even last a minute2. We have already seen Orochimaru admit inferiority to ItachiThat's a manga fact and he called it a 'dream' to capture to ItachiThis alone should shut down any clown saying tat Orochimaru wins when Kishi has already shown us twice why that is never going to happenYou Bringing down the same old statement of part 1 with the sannin hype is utter denial on your behalf.You should have the tendency to actually listen to the other person. Don't Just continue to bring the same old Orochimaru Jiriaya ItachiBS in this argument when:1. Part 1 Itachi said that they would kill each other in a fight2.

Jiriaya =/= Orochimaru. And Orochimaru himself has admitted inferiorityInb4 a long ass essay which is just based on your assertion that Orochimaru is stronger than Itachi when the manga has established multiple times that in front of the uchiha he's just a run of the mill ninjaAnd I would advise you that if people can't be bothered to read your huge asss slabs of paragraphs Then there's also your fault hereBecause you should learn how to concisely form arguments. It's for your own good. In the forums and in real lifeYou should also learn to actually accept someone's views.It's not 'wank' to say that tsukuyomi or totsuka one shot himWhen Orochimaru in his strongest form was one shotted by totsuka and when he was finished by a measly 3T genjutsu twice.Let alone tsukuyomiAnd don't expect another replyRead this and think about what I have saidIt's for your own good.

I don't need to respond to these people that think Itachi was portrayed above Prime Orochimaru. I have explained several times why this was not the case.Prime Orochimaru was compared to Itachi's superiors time and time again, Jiraiya, Minato, TobiramaPrime Orochimaru was also seen as a more dangerous opponent than Healthy Itachi by Part 1 KakashiNerfed Orochimaru lost to Itachi (wasn't fighting the 1st time round; was unhealthy and had sealed arms the 2nd time round)Nerfed Orochimaru admitted inferiority (after he lost his arms to Hiruzen)What part of this can you not understand?

Click to expand.Orochimaru is not a run of the mill ninja. He said so himself.It is not my assertion, it is a manga fact.If not, then why is it that Kakashi saw him as more dangerous?Again, you cant deny that there is a trendEverytime the manga displayed Orochi ItachiAnd I would advise you that if people can't be bothered to read your huge asss slabs of paragraphs Then there's also your fault here. Click to expand.When was he finished twice?

Sasuke turned Fushi Tensei against him, that is nothing to do with ItachiWhen was he finsihed by itachi? How does getting your hand cut off = you were finished, especially in the case of Orochimaru, who has lost an arm on panel and laughed at it and regeneratedYou take Itachi's feats out of proportion and give him the feats of other Sharingan users, as people always doWho stated Yamata was his best form? Because the last time I checked, Orochimaru being immobilised with no counter to Totsuka the number 1, so it is not bigger, and even those things were stated, i still wouldnt care, cos Manda has shown me in the manga he is better than Yamata. Click to expand.Of course not, you dont know how to debateYou are not a real poster on this forum. You are just a blatant liar so I see no reason to debate with someone like you.All you do is repeat things I have addressed (if you havent read any of my essays thats on you not me) and resort to insults and try to change the topic to real life to avoid the fact Orochi ItachiStop arguing with me about Jiraiya.

That's not up for debate with me. The manga told me is slightly stronger than Itachi and slightly weaker than Prime Orochimaru.

: When these things are left out it’s generally assumed that characters are fighting to the best of their ability but still within the limits of their personality, using their standard gear, have no prep time, and are their current mainstream versions at the time of the thread's conception. Their starting distance is close and the setting is most often a city. The accepted win conditions are death, KO, and BFR (Battlefield Removal). Without any specifications to a battle, those are what we go. It’s always best to give as much information about the fight in the first post. : When these things are left out it’s generally assumed that characters are fighting to the best of their ability but still within the limits of their personality, using their standard gear, have no prep time, and are their current mainstream versions at the time of the thread's conception.

Their starting distance is close and the setting is most often a city. The accepted win conditions are death, KO, and BFR (Battlefield Removal). Without any specifications to a battle, those are what we go. It’s always best to give as much information about the fight in the first post.Read my comment again since I edit it. I'm reading the rules again now. And I still stand by what I said giving the fact Orochimaru already knows Kisame would likely have already prep against him.

So no need for prep. He would have it on stand. : When these things are left out it’s generally assumed that characters are fighting to the best of their ability but still within the limits of their personality, using their standard gear, have no prep time, and are their current mainstream versions at the time of the thread's conception.

Their starting distance is close and the setting is most often a city. The accepted win conditions are death, KO, and BFR (Battlefield Removal). Without any specifications to a battle, those are what we go. It’s always best to give as much information about the fight in the first post.By the way. That is a contradiction. Because they said fight to the best of their ability but within their personality.

Then they took away to prep which is Orochimaru best ability. I do not recall him fighting without prepping.

: It means they're fighting seriously. The rules aren't made for Orochimaru in mind but in general. If you want to give Orochimaru prep against Kisame go make the thread. He fought Team 7, Tsunade, Jiraiya and Naruto, and Naruto in Shippuden without prepping.So prepping is not fighting seriously is that what I am getting from you?

Even in general some characters best of their ability is to prep. I don't have to make the thread the op need to be specific. And no he did not fight them without prepping.

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He fought Team 7 because he wanted to test Sasuke out. Which means he prepped. And that was during the Chunin Exams when he disguise himself as the Kazekage. Tsunade, Jiraiya, and Naruto, he fought them because he wanted to get his arms back.

Which means he prepped. He also prepped against Naruto when he fought him because he wanted to compare Naruto to Sasuke at the time. He even prep for the war at the end when everyone else thought he was dead. Everything he did he had a plan for a reason or reasons. It's almost unanswerable since we never really saw the limits of either one.The closest we can get to a legitimate answer from the Manga is this:-We can accept that Oorochimaru is roughly equal in power and skill to Jiraiya.

Without arms, he was able to engage a Jiraiya AND Tsunade (though Jiraiya was also weakened)-We know he can engage up to 4-tailed Kurama form Naruto-Kisame himself said that even if he and Itachi (a powerhouse in his own right) were to fight Jiraiya, they would stalemate at best.-Samehada would probably be the determining factor here. I'd be curious what would happen if Samehada got a taste of Curse mark/ Sage chakra.

It may turn him to stone, or even turn him over to Oorochimaru's side (Samehada has turned coat when he tastes better chakra before). :Orochimaru can summon The first and second hokages, they can interfere with the water jutsu, not to mention manda. And I'm not sure you can drown an immortal so for me it seems like there's too many things for kisame to get around, but no doubt if Orochimaru wasn't immortal I'd prolly say Kisame cause he's a beast. But that don't mean he has the skill set to go against Oro.pretty muchHis immortality doesn't have limits? Like being filled with water then being devoured?Though his Edo tensei would absolutely pose a problem.

Manda I'm a little iffy on as I see he could be dealt with much easier than Tobirama and Hashirama. :Orochimaru can summon The first and second hokages, they can interfere with the water jutsu, not to mention manda. And I'm not sure you can drown an immortal so for me it seems like there's too many things for kisame to get around, but no doubt if Orochimaru wasn't immortal I'd prolly say Kisame cause he's a beast.

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But that don't mean he has the skill set to go against Oro.pretty muchHis immortality doesn't have limits? Like being filled with water then being devoured?Though his Edo tensei would absolutely pose a problem. Manda I'm a little iffy on as I see he could be dealt with much easier than Tobirama and Hashiramawell. We have yet to see him stay dead after being 'slain' numerous times so. No we don't know what or even if there's a limit of his reincarnation.People often forget, he's a Sannin. Easily Kage level and we most likely haven't seen all of what he's capable of.

Pretty much on equal grounds of Tsunade and Jiraya. Both of which should be able to handle Kisame.

At the very least, he should be able to outsmart, and thusly outplay Kisame. :Orochimaru can summon The first and second hokages, they can interfere with the water jutsu, not to mention manda.

And I'm not sure you can drown an immortal so for me it seems like there's too many things for kisame to get around, but no doubt if Orochimaru wasn't immortal I'd prolly say Kisame cause he's a beast. But that don't mean he has the skill set to go against Oro.The version that is being used here is Orochimaru before he got the Zetsu body. Orochimaru's original Edo Tensei was a bit shit, the summoned dead were much more restricted than Kabuto's (who still couldn't quite reach their full power).Kisame wins.

:I see what your saying, I thought the same thing to begin with, but when he uses the white snake thing he can regenerate limitlessly!! That's why he's immortal. Not to mention causes zero chakra loss he's a sage snake.

Even when it does get cut it leaves behind a genjutsu (Not sure how good it'll work on Kisame) but I totally get where your coming from. There's just no way to stop him in the immediate outside of absorbing/sealing him.And yes I am talking about the first and second hokage he summoned against Hiruzen Sarutobi (3rd hokage). Even those two gave a kage level ninja trouble (Undoubtedly couldn't handle Hiruzen by theirself, but all they really are is a backup help, not to mention limitless chakra and regen). All in all Orocimaru only likes to lose to Uchiha members no one else!!